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reading citizens and welcome to unknown

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I'm Jason McClellan thanks for hanging

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out with me the International UFO

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Congress took place from September 4th

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through the 8th in downtown Phoenix

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Arizona although this year marked the I

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UFO C's 28th anniversary this was the

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events first year in downtown Phoenix it

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was also a new time of year for the

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event historically the Congress has

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taken place in February so it was a year

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of big changes for the International UFO

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Congress since this conference was kind

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enough to move just a few miles down the

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street from where I live

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of course I popped in here and there to

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check it out and to spend some time with

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friends and colleagues who were in

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attendance

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Shane Hurd was there for the full

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conference he was pretty busy during the

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event but he did manage to sit down for

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a brief chat with our mutual friend zuni

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elder clifford mahooty I'm here at the

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2019 International UFO congress and i am

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here with clifford mahooty how are you

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doing Clifford and walking the Phoenix

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are doing excellent good so listen um

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what what brings you to the

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International UFO conference what do you

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enjoy I enjoy the the talks I enjoy the

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people and of course I've been around

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this for some time

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especially the Congress which is

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probably the best and the the biggest in

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in the country and I've I enjoyed

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b-being to that previous ones so this is

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a this is another one of those places

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that I really enjoyed listen to the

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speakers and of course the the people

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they come to these conferences I have a

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real good communication with them yeah I

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enjoy that too the camaraderie with with

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everyone is really special isn't it it

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sure is it just like reunion going back

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to school or college so that's sort of

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like that yeah it's great to see

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everyone on so also I was thinking that

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you know so much has been happening in

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ufology lately the last couple of years

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is there anything that the

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has really grabbed your attention well

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what are the things that you you

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ethology is that we're now increasingly

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to other areas for example being a

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Native American Indian I've included in

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some of my lectures the spirituality the

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conscious connection mother earth and

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also possibility of the star people as

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our ancestors but in this in these

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meetings we kind of cover all of that in

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one one session or at least one

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conference so the people are now really

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waking up and accepting a lot of things

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that was sort of taboo could say way

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back about 40 50 years ago yeah

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absolutely it's amazing that is so

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fascinating that connection so yeah I'm

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glad to hear that that people are being

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more receptive and and that's really

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being talked about it's very encouraging

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so I guess the last question I have you

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probably have seen this whole business

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about storm area51 it's been in the news

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a lot what do you think about that well

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you know the first impression will be

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you know this is sort of like a joke but

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believe it's something that is part of

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the the movement that's happening that

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is perhaps put forth by many different

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factors of course being the the attack

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on some of the things that the

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government has held back but I believe

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it's sort of like breaking down of a lot

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of barriers even though it seems like

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it's a fun event or it's sort of busier

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event but I believe that it's part of

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the breaking down at the disclosure of

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what has been held back for many many

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years so I really hope that a lot of

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these efforts are being brought out at

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different parts of the country yeah

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excellent that that's a great take on

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that well thank you so much and

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appreciate your time and and enjoy the

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rest of conference excellent thank you

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very much you bet Shane also caught up

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and a the retired US Navy senior chief

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operations specialist who was a radar

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operator on the USS Princeton during the

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now-infamous tick-tack UFO incident that

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occurred off the coast of San Diego in

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2004 thank you my honor and pleasure to

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be speaking with you

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thanks so much listen I know you're on

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the program and you you're on a panel

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would you like to kind of give us an

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idea what you're talking about and some

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highlights well it's gonna be up to the

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moderators to be an open question

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session so I'm pretty sure they're gonna

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be asking me lots about the Nimitz case

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that tick tack you you 2004 case and I'm

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expecting some questions on post effects

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but what happened to me since that time

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and I'm pretty sure he'll ask me about

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my book that just came out is called the

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sailor's anthology and it's on available

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on Amazon awesome

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and what the provenance of that book is

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when I retired in 2008 nobody would

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believe my story not even my own mom and

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dad and they didn't say that exactly but

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I could tell and I got frustrated and I

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didn't know what to do I would really

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really bug me because I was concerned

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about it no these things were a safety

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of flight issue and and I was thinking

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to myself what if what happened then

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happened off the coast of Iran and I did

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have missiles could it start a war you

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know an unprovoked war that's not what

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we want and I was but I didn't know

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where to go I didn't know what to do so

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what I did do is I wrote the story in a

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book and I published it in the Library

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of Congress I did not know just in case

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the story ever did break it would

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provide some sort of contemporary and

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his evidence this thing really did

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happen and I fictionalized it because

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people were still in uniform at the time

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and so that's what happened and

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Alejandro Rojas is republish my book and

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it's now for sale on Amazon so awesome

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and we're gonna use the proceeds for

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something else that probably gonna ask

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me about we're planning an expedition

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back to SoCal in November of 2020

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because it based on a hunch and a theory

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when those objects appeared on our radar

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and we intercepted him they acted like a

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flock of birds like they didn't want

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nothing at all to do with this imagine

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throwing seemed out like a bunch of

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pigeons on the ground you tossed a rock

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and they all fly away and they regroup

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and then go in a group yeah to wherever

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that's exactly how these things behaved

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commander flavor returned to the Nimitz

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after his flight the next flight was

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getting ready to launch and the flight

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Lee was his name was Chad Underwood that

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his name's just come out and he told

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Chad Underwood hey make sure you take a

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aircraft with that clear plot on it a

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forward-looking infrared radar this

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actives and Chad Underwood reply accord

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I wasn't there but according to

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testimony from other people he said I'm

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gonna go find those things and that's

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exactly what he did so I believe these

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things are findable and I also believe

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they're knowable and so we're gonna load

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up a research vessel with a bunch of top

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physicists and scientists and trained

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observers so we're gonna take some new

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technologies that are now available

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we've teamed up with some people in

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Silicon Valley and we're gonna we're

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gonna go see if we're right about that

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oh that would be fantastic

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whatever awesome so the sale at the book

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this sales from the book are gonna go

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towards that effort awesome that's

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Wow you blew me away with that I was not

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expecting that I'll look for for your

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updates on that that's not me to read

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I'm very excited about it yeah I'm

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humbled deeply humbled by the the the

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quality and the caliber of people that

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are jumping on the team and helping us

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helping this effort wow that's gonna be

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very impactful I'm sure awesome

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well you know there there's a lot going

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on in ufology of late and you've really

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kind of been at the epicenter of it

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are there is there anything that's

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catching your attention right now

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yeah and I kind of mentioned it already

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I was I didn't know there was people

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working at UAP ufo-related actual

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technologies products there's one guy

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sitting right behind us with the made

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our system yeah have one there's there's

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another system out there

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UFO talk - it's not called UFO dat

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crystal Bryan's a company there's some

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others too and that fascinates me yeah

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me too it truly fascinates me

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yeah I've checked out his booth yet but

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I'm definitely going to he's sitting

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over there he's giving a presentation I

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think on it yeah under today or maybe

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it's tomorrow yeah that'd be terrific

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cuz well I'm definitely gonna be at that

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one yeah I want I want that gear on my

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boat when I go ahead be cool yeah I'm

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sure he'd I got a little deal yeah

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about the whole storm area51 thing it's

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sort of changed and morphed a little bit

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maybe into more of a festival but what's

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your thought on that whole thing when I

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first heard that I was thinking it

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reminded me of doctors Jacques Vallee

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and and doctor Eric Davis did a paper in

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if I don't quote me but I think that the

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name of the paper is the

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incommensurability of high strangeness

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and it's basically a framework for doing

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research on these observations and they

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broke down different effects that

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because these interaction with these

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things affects people there's no

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question of my did it happen to me

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personally and I didn't know what the

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hell was wrong with me for a long time

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Wow only recently I figured it out and

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there's there's six layers that they

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laid out and layer six the very last

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layer is social effects yes so this area

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51 nonsense is a it's a later six social

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effect from beli Davis awesome what a

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great reference caveat that that is that

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really something and that's what I see

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yeah me too I got me with that that's uh

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you know I've been saying you know stay

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home stay pre-stain stay home baby safe

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yeah yeah that's a very bad idea you

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guys don't do this yeah yeah totally but

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your thoughts and efforts and doing

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something more productive than go and

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volunteer in your own town and help you

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out your neighbors and that kind of

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stuff great advice spend time with your

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dog yeah absolutely yeah yeah no kidding

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well thank you very much for taking a

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few minutes with my pleasure shame and

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you're a great great guy and I'm really

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thank you sharing my honor you got it

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in addition to five days filled with a

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Congress also features a vendor room a

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each year the I you FOC presents a

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researcher of the Year award and a

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Lifetime Achievement Award this year's

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recipients were the seemingly

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Jeremy Korbel and George Knapp

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respectively the International UFO

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Congress is always a good time

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Wycliffe mahooty said it really feels

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like a reunion you get to see so many

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people from the UFO community all in the

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same place if you've never been to a UFO

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conference I definitely recommend

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well citizens as we wrap up this brief

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your thoughts about the UFO Congress if

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Chronicles com thanks again for hanging

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out with me today I'm Jason McClellan do

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me a big favor friends always treat the

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UFO subject with the cautious and

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responsible skepticism it deserves

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question everything have the courage to

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form your own opinions keep truth as the

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focus of your quest even if the truth

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conflicts with your opinions and of

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course stay strange